Alabama River Fishing

Riverside Fly Shop · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: Brown Trout in Alabama?

Could happen, but only if you help...
Please print the petition and get as many signatures as possible and send it in...
http://www.sipseytu.org/pdf/petit.pdf
We need your help to make this happen.

You can mail it in, or scan it in and email it to riversideflyshop@gmail.com
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tredixie · Guest

Hey Brandon, the pros seem kinda obvious. What are the cons? I'm sure someone somewhere has a reason for not stocking browns? Oh the fish porn if this went through. I can guarantee I would be up at the tailrace a lot more often if there was a chance of a brown.

Riverside Fly Shop · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject:

Even if you only get one signature send it in. Every Name is important
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Riverside Fly Shop · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject:

The only con's we have received are
1) expense (The state does not pay for the rainbows and does not seem interested in spending money on browns)
2)fear of too many predatory species in the waterway (we are working on an evaluation which we hope will show this to be unfounded.)
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X · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject:

I assume that prior to asking for permission to introduce of a non-native species a study has been performed by a biologist. If such a study has been completed, where could I find a copy of it?

Scott S · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject:

X · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:53 am Post subject:

It seems to me that the petition should be requesting a study and not the stocking of brown trout. Stocking without understanding possible consequences seems dangerous. Besides that, isn't it a lot easier to get folks to sign off requesting a study?

If money is available for the stocking then maybe it ought to be spent on a study first. That way you could go to the state and say we have had a study performed by Dr So-n-so, a copy of which is attached, and we would like permission to move forward.

Alternatively give them a carrot in the deal. Propose a trout endorsement on the license that funds trout stocking and research. The government is much more receptive to things that have a funding source than a petition requesting them to spend money they do not have in their budget.

vacant · Time For An Intervention Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 900

I have to go 100% with Mike Strength on this one. I would like the chance to have those browns closer to my home as much as the next guy but it isn't a good idea to put anything where it doesn't belong. So finding out if it belongs there is a necessary first step in my opinion.

One of the Universities around here might be a place to go to get the study done.

creekfreak.com · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:59 am Post subject:

daniel9829 · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:09 am Post subject:

I havent a clue as to if Brown trout should be introduced, but from seeing the problems caused by the addition of non-native species I have to say we need to have a study done before introducing them in Alabama.
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kreekn · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:16 am Post subject:

If anyone here is really interested in this topic, it would be a good idea to check out the Sipsey TU page and find the time of the next meeting. It can be discussed here, but that is where it will get done, or not. Some more butts in the seats wouldn't be a bad thing either.
Now, the Sipsey TU doesn't have the deep pockets of some of the other locals. Studies cost money, petitions don't. I'm not 100% sure whether the club has one ongoing, or maybe one already exists. Seems to me that the club, would like to know how the powers that be really feel about it, before sinking cash into studies and such.

kreekn · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:18 am Post subject:

Also lets not forget that we are talking about the Sipsey tailrace, a stream that is about as far from natural as you can get and already holds numerous nonnative species.

tredixie · Guest

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locust · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:03 am Post subject:

Rainbows are non native to the sipsey tailrace.