Pics of some river bass taken within the last few years

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Postby gdawgs » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:18 am

DANGIT!!
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Postby LilP.D. River Rat » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:32 pm

Same day different fish. If you look above the pic I put the weight of each one. It was a pretty good day...not many fish but those 2 nice ones made it a great one!
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Postby gdawgs » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:38 pm

Drew us LONGGGGGG STOKERS have different method of determining if we are in a river or more of a lakey environment. Step 1: pop tab on cold bud lite step 2: drink aformentioned bud lite in a hasty yet sophisticated manner (stick pinky out). step3: drop emptied beer can beside kayak step 4: observe closely the float pattern of the empty can. If it floats away from you, then we must clasify this as a flowing river. If it hangs around banging against your kayak...you are evidently in a lake, pick up can and chunk it at Polk County. Dux and Lil P may wanna add the lowcountry version.....which will prolly be the same other than the use of a pabst blue ribbon can.
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Postby Big Country » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:05 pm

Yeah I would have to ? your thoughts on this Drew, I've fished above 99 alot when I had a jon boat and have floated it in my kayak once. Alot of the broad River has dam's along the way and if you rule out above 99 and classify it as a lake then that is saying from below Cherokee falls dam to 99 dam is not flowing river. Also above cherokee falls to the Dravo dam would fall under the same rule and from Dravo to Cliffside dam at the power plant the same rule would apply. I will agree that above 99 near the dam may have a more lake type appeal but that does not mean it is a lake. The only big coves created is up behind the pick hill access and a smaller cove at the gaffney side access. I would have to say though there is alot of river flowing from cherokee falls dam to 99 dam that should be fishable waters not to mention above cherokee falls dam to Dravo. As we all know the Broad river has many dams along the way so you will always be fishing upstream of a dam. To me a lake would be a larger impoundment than some of these places on the Broad. Of course this is just my opinion but I have fished above 99 and can tell you the river flows just as swift as below 99 except for the couple of backwater coves I mentioned. Not trying to stirr the pot just expressing my opinion.
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Postby BasserDrew » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:21 pm

Maybe I am missing something, but I really dont follow you Big C. I think you may have misinterpreted my post or something. All that matters is if the original river channel width is exceeded. You base that width on the river well upstream of the dam/lakeish area in question. The first sign of the Broad exceeding its normal channel above 99 would be the exact start of the lake part of the river by our commonly used rule on GRF. Think about it, would there naturally be a cove there? No. So, therefore man, at that point, has altered the natural river. Right below Cherokee Falls is clearly river because it is the natural shoals. Shoals are an obvious river feature. It is impossible for a lake to have shoals because lakes are at a constant elevation and shoals are a drop in elevation. However, when those shoals end and you (on your honor) see that the river is wider than would normally be if the dam were not there, then you are in lake. Again, it is all honor system, but I personally wouldnt feel right about fishing above 99 in coves because I know that dam has created a lake there - even though it may not have a "name" persay. But, if you feel like its a natural river there then go for it!
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Postby Big Country » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:57 am

Well that explains it better, I guess I did miss the point in your previous post. I thought you were saying that above 99 was all considered a lake and that was what I was wrong on. I do agree with your definition and I think we were saying the same thing, I just misunderstood thinking that you felt like the whole area above 99 would be a lake but clearly that is not what you meant, I'm straight on the rule now and would only enter a fish from the river section if fishing above 99. That area below cherokee falls dam is some good fishing.
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Postby BasserDrew » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:34 pm

I figured we missed something. Or, we could just use Gdawgs method!!! Makes sense to me! Good one, Gdawgs. :lol:
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Postby Dux-n-Dawgs » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:18 pm

The lowcountry version ......

Chit rolls down hill, we catch alot of it, everbody poop's in our stream.

If you think you're in a river then you're in a river. If it's a stream that feeds the river then so be it. If it's a dug canal that's fed by a stream that all the 'new' outdoorsy types that have moved into the area so they can build their $500,000 home in a floodplain then so be it.

If it's a pond or a lake then God be your Guide and it's on your concense in winning 'nothing' on the internet that everyone will have forgotten about by next year. :wink:

People gonna find something to b1tch about, especially when they take stuff way too seriously and things are based on the honor system. I've looked at some of those fish posted on the Joe-Ja site ....... if some of those fish are as big as they say I'm a ........ well I'm a Jet Pilot :oops: I personally don't see why it's not mandated that the phishy picture also has to have the scales and weight in it too. Guess I've had to fish against too many cheats and I don't trust pictures. Photoshop .... anybody heard of that , LOL.

I mean if people really want to get crazy, is a fish 'illegal' if it's caught when the river is in flood stage and you're picking them off of lawn furnature in someone's backyard ........ you might laugh at that but I've seen it before (white lawn furnature and a spinnerbait I chit you not). I mean technically the water is past it's 'natural' bank ..... it's not exactly 'river' .... though it's river water and a river bass.

The moral of the story is this. Don't take it too seriously. If you feel that you're in a river then you're in a river. If anybody questions your photo then tell them to give you GPS coordinates of every fish they either catch or have posted.

Long Strokers be prepared ........ we're newbies to the Joe-Ja site who don't know the rules and we can catch fish.

I'm stepping off the Soap Box now :lol:

p.s. Little P' ...... see what you started with yo dang phishes :wink: Wack'um all this weekend and then pick the rod up again, it'll be about that time.
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Postby BasserDrew » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:43 pm

I agree, its honor system and we all just have fun with it. If anyone lies about weight in this thing that yields no prize then they have much bigger issues to worry about and I'll be praying for them! But, even though it has no prize we still want to all be playing on the same level playing field or there is no point in doing it. So, that is whey the rule. I just err on the side of lake if I am anywhere close, and the amount of "flow" has virtually nothing to do with it. I have seen rivers that are at complete stops and lakes that are moving pretty good when they generate.

I mean if people really want to get crazy, is a fish 'illegal' if it's caught when the river is in flood stage and you're picking them off of lawn furnature in someone's backyard ........ you might laugh at that but I've seen it before (white lawn furnature and a spinnerbait I chit you not). I mean technically the water is past it's 'natural' bank ..... it's not exactly 'river' .... though it's river water and a river bass.


I know you are being funny, but this situation is ok based on the rule I explained earlier because it is not a "man-made" structure downstream that is backing the water up to flood over its banks. If it were a man-made structure then that would be a different story. They key to being in a river to me is all about the word "natural." The only exception is an oxbow that has now been completely cut off from the river - is is natural, but clearly not the river because it is landlocked.
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Postby derekp » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:32 am

Lil P,

Sometimes you start something and it has unintended consequences.

I think I'm the one that originally asked you to post some pics. I was reading your posts one night and thinking...I wish I was there and could see what the water looks like. So I think I replied with something like "dude, show some pics even if don't catch anything" because you had caught more mudfish than bass that trip.

I only wanted to see what the river looked like because I have actually looked at the map, read the paddl'n books, mapped the access points, scanned internet satelite photos, and wanted to get a feel of what the "northern" low country rivers look like. Yes, info is worth $100 but experience is priceless. I was thinking 1 to 3 lb fish and lots of them with little fishing pressure. Must be fun on a fly rod. Strike on every other cast.

Ok, blame me. All my fault. I didn't know you had caught the *&^%$# lockness monster of the Little Pee Dee and had caught more than one...in a freaking parking lot!

I will never wade the Little Pee Dee...ever. Call me a wuss but there are monsters in them there waters. Screw the alligators, I'm scared of the bass! :wink:

Dude, you have caught some enormous fish. Every time I see the Viagra commercials...I get a laugh. Yes, size does matter, no chit, just ask the CRF board!

Guys, after we do this April thing get together, some of us should make a trip up LilP way and float down the river.

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